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  Apost8News: "Return to Jehovah" Official Literature Release Video - 2015 Convention Lowlight

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  again, thanks to wifibandit and pixel for their work behind the scenes.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwzviu3jfko.

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  I think I puked a little; in the back of my throat there's a disgusting taste
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  Are Elders experts on the Bible? Are they spirtually qualified men?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how many times have elders read their bible in its entirety?

  these are the leaders that give counsel to married couples, to teenagers, to single girls and single boys on everything from marriage, education, sex, association, dress, and recreation..

  how well do they know their bible?

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  Absolutely, unequivocally "NO"....the may be qualified as janitors, window washers, maybe even as high as tradesman.....but in spiritual matters....hahaha, been there, been that, and I speak from experience: NO!
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  If you found out TTATT at 80 and spent your entire life at Bethel, what would you do?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  would you do a ray franz deal and write a book or keep quiet and live out the rest of your life in bethel?.

  would you keep reading the watchtower magazine?.

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  I figured it out in my 50's tho I had serious doubts and questions from my early 20's. Both my parents had doubts before they died....but they both said 'it is still the truth'.....my Dad blew raspberries when I asked him what he thought about 1914 (this was well before the over-lapping generation excuse). My Mom called not celebrating birthdays and holidays ' a load of crap'....so they knew, but for whatever their reasons, they hung on.

  I've been a fader, and have faded so deep that I'm nearly invisible. Haven't managed much of a social life rebuild, but still happy to not be wading chin deep in bull manure.
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  California Supreme Court Case - S226656

  by Gayle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/maincasescreen.cfm?dist=0&doc_id=2109889&doc_no=s226656&search=party&start=1&query_partylastnameororg=watchtower bible and tract.

  started 5/27/2015.

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  OK....perhaps this makes me look dumb, but has anyone figured out --beyond a shadow of a doubt, for a fact-- who filed the appeal?? Candace and her team; or the We Teach Bull & Total Shit henchmen? I've tried to keep pace, but that either hasn't been cleared up, or I missed it.
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  Fornicate and keep quiet, is it possible for a Governing Body member?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  do you think any of the members of the governing body have at one time in their lives committed an immoral sex act but never confessed?

  remember leo greenlees.

  fornication, adultery or something else?

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  Having known guy Pearce personally (strange super-imposed humility about him) I wouldn't put anything past him or any of the GB. I knew an elder when I was 'in' who seemed so up-right I couldn't imagine him being anything other than lily-white. He could barely say the word 'sex' or 'masturbation' without turning red. 5 or so years before he passed, I dropped by his house to check up on him, and when no one answered the door got worried. I stuck my head in and called out a 'hello'.....no response. So I walked in quietly and found him 'spanking the monkey' on his back porch. Pants down to his ankles, seriously stroking the beast. He never knew I was there, and I managed to sneak away w/o him knowing. But, geeeeez, this confirmed my belief that we are all human and have a skeleton or 2 in our closet---- no matter what we say, how we act in public (or even to our close friends and associates), we are all; each and every one, an imperfect human. So, no, I would not be surprised that all the GB have some serious fault. In fact I'd be more surprised if they didn't.
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  Getting married when you are spiritually out

  by 1tMakesNoSence in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i met this amazing girl about 6years ago at my local congregation.

  i was 100% in back then.

  about 3years ago i woke up spiritually and kept it undercover till a few months ago.. this girl is still very in (but she doesnt really do the things a reaaal jw should do.

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  Wise old saying: "marry in haste/ repent at leisure".
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  Ties at the Kingdom Hall

  by CloseTheDoor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  couple of weeks ago an elder took a young man aside and crawled all over him after the tms for wearing a "skinny" tie.

  it was one of those 2 inch wide ties.

  nothing bright or scandalous about.

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  hahaha...I was scolded after a Sunday assembly at an elders meeting for wearing a leather blazer. At-the-time C.O. Louis Razor said all brothers should wear a matching suit and trouser combination at all times. I figured it was just his way of saying I should go buy leather trousers. .....idiots.....
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  Legal Website AVVO's Headline " "Outrageously Wealthly Religious Leaders Under Investigation!"

  by PokerPlayerPhil in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://nakedlaw.avvo.com/money/6-outrageously-wealthy-preachers-under-federal-investigation.html.

  if you don't know what avvo is, it's a website run by professional lawyers on all subjects, you can ask them any question.

  i am looking for all the old jim and tammy bakker, the jerry falwell and oral roberts videos to show you how the governing body is using their scripts, it's totally uncanny how copyright infringement of "begging for money from the poorest segments of society", their totally wicked!

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  AVVO from the Italian word for lawyer "Avvocato"!
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  Am I the only "witness here besides the admins?

  by TheOnlyRealWittnessHere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with all the negativity here i was wondering if i am the only one here that's a witness.

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  the topic pretty much says everything..

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  Congrats for having the courage to look outside the Borg. But, I'm sure not who else my be 'in and visiting here...not anymore. Was 'in' for 50 years and nearly killed myself over it (literally) more than once. Out and happy to be out. Wife still pissed and won't talk at all about it, but nothing I can do until she's ready.....if ever. Keep looking, someday you may be on the 'free' side too.
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  Seriously condsidering disasscoiating

  by Ashley L. in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am seriously considering disassociating myself.

  i want to do this because i no longer consider myself one of jehovah's witnesses.

  i no longer consider jehovah as my god and i am in a new religion now.

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  Don't burn bridges....once they're gone, they are gone. Never the same even if you re-build them. Just fade away and you'll have all the pleasure (of still having at least some relationship with family) and none of the pain (in the butt from JW's)....it will take some time but stand your ground, and decline offers from elders who want to 'help' you spiritually. I speak from experience: fade slowly into the background until you just disappear.